Here Gulliver and his friends meet a philosophy professor from Kino University. The discussions are on the sources of values—understanding how people make decisions is essential to making the choices for survival. The discussion begins with understanding non-provable basic assumptions from self-centered, God based and society based points of view. They look at reasons for self-centered ethics, the various types of assumptions from several religions, then some society based assumptions. Then they discuss sources of evidence, such as empirical, historical, reason, and evidence from some authority—like scriptures. Various concepts of a supernatural, as well as agnosticism and atheism, are discussed. The people then look at a number of ethical questions (such as: abortion, torture, euthanasia, pornography, licensing parents, reducing population, homosexuality, war, killing, etc) and show how an action can be moral or immoral from each type of basic assumption depending on the type of evidence used. No utopia can be planned without a clear understanding of values.